In interview about the 2030 Agenda, Fiocruz coordinator Carlos Gadelha says that "without a public, universal, free and quality health system, Brazil will not reach the SDGs – nor in 2030 nor never. If, instead of adopting a model of collective health for all, we adopt a policy that fragments the health sector in a public system for the poor and a private one for the rich, we will be against the 2030 Agenda."